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405 Question Posted On: Date: 11.20.2008 Time: 02:44:23 Posted By User From: New York
Subject: No Names & No Budget - LLC?
Question Posted:
I have a better-than-most script I must shoot. I have no budget (therefore no names) and no illusions about it's chances for commercial success, having seen some terrific films that disappear without a trace. Is incorporating and insurance absolutely essential? Does the risk of exposure trump the cost? And what am I looking at really in terms of cost?
Greg Answered:

The reasons many “terrific films” disappear without a trace is that a good film is not enough today for distributors. Cast is essential. With many films to choose from, they will take the one with bigger cast over a better film every time, because the cast gives them a level of certainty as to results. At the end of the day, it’s a business. And when the consumer sees the lesser movie, they don’t know it’s the lesser one since they don’t have anything to compare to. So if you can find the way, raise more money and get cast. If you don’t have the money, then the likelihood is it will be a festival film, with some small video and tv showing. The reason you form a corporation or LLC to make the film, and get insurance, is to protect yourself individually against liabilities should something happen. Accidents happen on virtually every film. Some big, some small. Most equipment rental and locations will not do a deal with you if you do not have insurance. And then there is worker’s comp insurance which is mandatory. As for cost, it varies depending on numerous factors.

404 Question Posted On: Date: 11.17.2008 Time: 18:26:39 Posted By User From: Atlanta
Subject: Job Description
Question Posted:
Hi Greg!

Where can I find the job descriptions for certain positions (Producer, Assistant Director, etc)?
Greg Answered:

“Film and Broadcast Terms” by Edmund Penney has many definitions of film terms, including many crew members. Most of the guilds have definitions. Such as the Producer Guild has a definition of a producer and the DGA has definitions of what an AD, UPM etc .

403 Question Posted On: Date: 11.17.2008 Time: 17:52:58 Posted By User From: Los Angeles
Subject: Optioning Material
Question Posted:
Greg,

In the process of optioning a book. We're estimating a $5M budget and are prepared to pay $15K for the option (against a 150K acquisition). If we are considering hiring the author to adapt her work and submit a first draft of the screenplay, would this be part of the option agreement or a separate agreement entirely? And if we're essentially paying her for two distinct services/items, would it be customary to expect a break on both?

Thanks for your help...
Greg Answered:

Writing services by the author would typically be in the same agreement , but it can be done either way. Part of the decision might depend upon whether the writing is WGA, where it might be better to have the writing in a separate agreement just to make it cleaner. Leave the decision to your lawyer. As for pricing, typically there is not a break on the fees, but then I doubt the author is an accomplished screenwriter so you should not be paying top dollar. Moreover, you can usually use the fact the author wants to write the script as leverage to bring the price down.

402 Question Posted On: Date: 11.13.2008 Time: 12:53:32 Posted By User From: LA
Subject: release form
Question Posted:
I just received a release form from a high profile lit manager/producer with the following clause:

5. I hereby grant to you a non-exclusive right to use the protectible material for any and all purposes, in perpetuity, without any obligation to give any credit to me. If you use any of the protectible material, you agree to pay me the reasonable value of such non-exclusive right to such use of said submitted material. I, on the other hand, agree to accept such sum as payment in full for such use. The “reasonable value,” as used herein, shall be determined as of the date of this submittal. I acknowledge that the maximum reasonable value of such use of the submitted material – in its entirety – is an amount equal to the minimum compensation provided for the writing of equivalent material in the Writers Guild of America Theatrical and Television Basic Agreement in effect as of the date hereof.


Doesn't that limit my potential compensation to WGA minimum? Should I just alter the word maximum to minimum, and return the release without mentioning it?

Thanks for your feedback.
Greg Answered:

From the wording I gather it’s a submission release. While a few companies try this approach, I always recommend staying clear of companies that even try this. Yes, you are correct that by signing it, they can do what they want with it and only pay you WGA minimum.

401 Question Posted On: Date: 11.07.2008 Time: 18:52:28 Posted By User From: Santa Monica
Subject: Investment/Tax question
Question Posted:
Hello Greg:

I just first want to thank you for your wonderful answers and let everyone out there know you are one of the best entertainment attorneys in the world. I took a class you taught at UCLA and was stunned by your wisdom and knowledge.

OK! Here's the mighty question:

We were fortunate to have received a good-size check from our distributor for our indie film and we're expected to make a profit next year (based on good sales this year).

Of course, Uncle Sam, wants a piece of any profit.

My question is if we used the profits to make another picture, isn't this considered rolling over much like when you sell your house and buy another one?
Greg Answered:

Not quite. Assuming you “roll over” in the same company in the same year, and make the film in the same year, you might be able to cover the cost via Section 181 (allows 100% write off the film the first year, up to $15 mil). There is no rollover the way you are thinking (and I believe that rule on houses went away as well about 10 years ago). It just a matter of having an offsetting write off the same year. A lot depends on what kind of an entity you are, what year you get the money on the first film and if you can make the second one in time, etc. You need to talk to your tax accountant or tax lawyer about all this.

400 Question Posted On: Date: 11.03.2008 Time: 16:27:19 Posted By User From: Studio City
Subject: Has the SEC ever arrested a filmmaker?
Question Posted:
Greg,

I keep hearing about the SEC and the active v. passive investing and needing a securities exchange lawyer.

But here's 2 questions: i) I've rarely heard of filmmakers going to the lengths of getting SEC approval on anything; ii) has the SEC ever arrested a filmmaker?

It just seems like as long as the filmmaker is not scamming the other party and actually makes a decent film, the SEC would not get involved.

Thanks for any input.
Greg Answered:

Oh, absolutely have film makers been arrested by the SEC. And the FTC, state versions of the SEC, Postal Service (mail fraud), and on and on. Most of the time they are not arrested, however, for not following the rules. Its only the scams or where a lot of people complain, is there an arrest. Instead they are just fined and barred from raising money ever again, not to mention the civil lawsuits. The first thing I must say is you must get an experienced lawyer to guide you. But here goes with a general summation of what you are asking: The issue of passive vs active goes to the legal question of whether what you are offering to investors is a security or not. If not, then many of the rules don’t apply. This is a game tried for ages. But that game is the one that the SEC and other agencies crack down on the hardest, because they fell that someone is clearly trying to skirt the rules. I have seen many offerings structured to be “general partnerships” or other vehicles where the investor appears active. They eventually get caught. Bottom line is that if you are asking someone for money and they are not going to be a significant part of the day to day operations and decision making, its likely a security. If you are asking a bunch of people for money, its absolutely a security as there is no way they all can be as active as required by the rules. Second, SEC approval goes to public offerings, not private placements. Private placements are “exempt” from the registration and approval process with the SEC (and most states too). Whether the offering qualifies as exempt or not depends on following various rules. Like you probably heard of Reg D, etc. One SEC case I remember very well from the early 90’s was a group of filmmakers in Texas who took out an ad in a newspaper asking for investors for their film. The SEC came down on them for fraud, failing to register a public offering and on and on. All from one ad. How? Ads to the public are not permitted under private placements. So the offering was not exempt (count 1). The offering was not registered (count 2). And that one page ad did not have the 50 pages of disclosures required (hence fraud for failing to properly disclose), etc. (count 3), and on and on.

399 Question Posted On: Date: 10.20.2008 Time: 22:19:39 Posted By User From: Manchester, UK
Subject: Payment/deal for a pitch
Question Posted:
Hello,

I desperately need some advice regards remuneration. I have been asked to pitch an original 6-page action treatment to a successful Hong Kong based director who has an 'open door' with a BIG production company.
They want to know what my fee is, should they decide to go with my idea.
I've absolutely no idea what to say.
Do I say WGA minimums?
Does HK have different pay schedules?
Do I just sell the pitch, or do I go for a draft(s) of the screenplay as well?
Do you have any financial or strategic advice at all for a situation like this?

I've been operating without an agent for 5 or so years. I've had a handful of paid feature length screenplay commissions, but have had nothing produced yet.

Thanks,

best, regards,

David Raphael
Greg Answered:

What one is willing to pay for a script (or in this case a treatment), depends on a number of factors. WGA minimum only applies if the writer is WGA (and the film company agrees to become a WGA signatory in which case it has to pay at least the minimum), but those minimums serve as a nice guide. The fact that a foreign based company wants to buy it definitely can influence the price. If the company is buying it to make as a local production, local prices apply, not US prices. On the other hand, if they are buying to make it into a worldwide film, then maybe US prices apply. The next factor is what you have earned on your sales before. Another factor, to some degree, is the budget for the film. A treatment alone is not as valuable as a script. Current WGA minimum is only $20,000 for low budget ($5 million budget film) and $30,000 for over that. That said, I have had clients sell full scripts for less than that given various factors. Before anyone can really tell you want to ask for, you need to research the going prices for similar projects in Hong Kong (you will probably only find out prices for the full scripts, not story alone. The story is usually about 1/3 of the total) . I would suggest that in addition to whatever you can get for the story, you try to negotiate a script writing deal, which then can lead to getting bonuses and other compensation.

398 Question Posted On: Date: 10.20.2008 Time: 13:02:13 Posted By User From: Las Vegas
Subject: Raising Money
Question Posted:
Greetings,

I looked in your forum and didnt see this so hopefully its not a repeat.

Please breifly discuss the legalities in rasining funds in public forums, i.e., newspapers, etc
Greg Answered:

There are all kinds of restrictions on “offering” securities for sale (raising funds) via public forums, newspapers, ads, etc. I highly suggest talking to a competent securities law lawyer before embarking on any fund raising, as there are various rules, including disclosure documentation , that must be followed.

397 Question Posted On: Date: 10.07.2008 Time: 15:51:30 Posted By User From: Chicago
Subject: Legal Issues
Question Posted:
I'm putting the finishing touches on an indie film that I'm working with a graphic designer to make some promotional material (such as posters, fliers, etc.) for.

He's agreed to work for free, but we both agreed about making or finding a form that establishes that he's making art for us, and if he uses it himself, it can only be for reel-type material.

What sort of a form do you think we should be looking for or designing?

Thank you in advance,

Scott
Greg Answered:

You need a certificate of employment or similar document to make sure what he is doing for you , you own and can use. The part about him being able to use it for his personal marketing is something a lawyer will have to draft for you. So, overall, I suggest you seek a lawyer’s advice to obtain the proper documentation.

396 Question Posted On: Date: 09.29.2008 Time: 13:14:48 Posted By User From: Los Angeles
Subject: Development Company
Question Posted:
Greg,

I'm in discussions with a party who has $5M earmarked for developing films. She is considering hiring me and two partners as Managers who will be in charge of developing a slate of films. In negotiating a contract, is it customary to be exclusive, or can we maintain our non-exclusivity and develop other projects while on her payroll? Also, I'm trying to get an idea of what you'd charge for reviewing/countering the contract she's about to send forth...i.e. would we pay your retainer and go hourly or is there a pre-set fee?

Thanks as always,
Keith
Greg Bernstein Alumnus who's FINALLY about to actually produce something.
Greg Answered:

If you are a full time employee, then it would be common to have you exclusive. The logic being, why should you keep the good projects for yourself, or distract you’re your job. Sometimes I have negotiated some exclusions for existing projects to work on off hours. Otherwise, you have to bring the project to them first and get their ok to develop independently. As for my legal fees, retainers etc, please email me directly to discuss.



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